ProFrequency 9.24.20: In the first hour, an interview with Bethany Van Kampen of Ipas. Then, a discussion with artist and writer Vanessa Norton (Copy)

During the first hour, Amy interviews Senior Policy Advisor Bethany Van Kampen of Ipas about their effort to repeal the Helms Amendment. In the second hour, Amanda (aka Dj Vjj) talks with artist and writer Vanessa Norton about her recent work with wild water and the liquid femme space.